The 3rd Report, the 2nd Referee on the SN 2002ap Jet Paper I have reviewed the manuscript "Optical Spectropolarimetry of SN 2002ap: A High Velocity Asymmetric Explosion" by Kawabata et al. The authors present a first analysis of spectropolarimetric data obtained for the possible "hypernova" SN 2002ap, and offer a novel explanation for the origin of the early-time polarization: That at least some of it is produced by electron-scattering off of a blob of material (perhaps from a jet) ejected at high velocity. SN 2002ap is a very exciting object, and the paper presents interesting data and speculations. The writing is, for the most part, clear and concise. Clearly the most controversial element of the paper is the introduction of a "jet" of material to explain some of the early-time polarization properties. The jet model is not fully developed in the work, but the authors stress that a more complete description will be given elsewhere, and that this hypothesis is very speculative in nature. Enough information is provided to demonstrate from rough order-of-magnitude calculations that a jet model might be tenable. I find this level of treatment to be appropriate. A jet model is, at the very least, an interesting speculation, and one that other workers might be interested in pursuing the implications of. So, although I am eager to see the fully worked-out jet model, I agree with the authors that this Letter is not the place for it: Letters are commonly less rigorous and more speculative in nature than works in the main Journal. I can therefore recommend its publication as a Letter, subject to a few modifications suggested below. They begin with the most important. o When discussing the jet hypothesis, I am surprised and a bit puzzled that mention is not made of the recent work by Craig Wheeler et al. (e.g., Wheeler, Meier, \& Wilson 2002), who propose that "bipolar" jets may be responsible for the ejection of envelopes in core-collapse SNe. When reading Kawabata's jet hypothesis, in fact, my initial assumption was that there were *2* jets, and I could not understand why reflection off of *both* concentrations of material was not discussed. It was only after reading for a second time that I inferred that there was only 1 clump of material. The authors need to make this clear from the start: they are discussing the possibility of only *1* blob of material. Clearly a second clump, if ejected in the opposite direction, would have consequences on the observed polarization (except I suppose for i=90). While I think it is OK to limit the simple model to a single blob of material, I feel that this assumption should be made very clear to the reader, and that the Wheeler et al. work should at least be referred to as further support for jets in core-collapse SNe. o I do not understand exactly how the "residual polarization" that is shown in Fig. 3e and discussed at the bottom of p. 7, is derived. It seems that the authors wish to remove the effect of the proposed jet polarization from the Feb. data, and then show that what remains in the Feb. data is consistent with the P.A. of the March data, but it is not clear to me how is this done. What is the assumed value of the "jet polarization"? I had thought that this value would simply be the continuum polarization at some particular wavelength, but since the "residual" is at least somewhat greater than 0 (even in the 5000-7000 A range), I am lead to believe that this is not so. Was it taken to be some arbitrarily-defined fraction of the observed polarization? Is there a wavelength-dependence to it? The authors need to make clear exactly what is going on here. o SN 2002ap is currently a very "hot" object, with new references being added to the literature on an almost bi-weekly basis. Although I don't recommend including all (or even most) of the latest references, I do feel that two should be referenced that are not, especially since they are now (according to ASTRO-ph and the journal's web sites) accepted and would be useful to readers to look at: o Kinugasa et al. (ApJL; astro-ph/0208470) -- Presents detailed modeling of the spectral evolution of SN 2002ap. This is very relevant to the discussion of ejecta velocity. Perhaps this work could be referenced on p. 8, first complete paragraph, where the "maximum ejecta velocity indicated by spectrum synthesis of SN 2002ap" is given to be 0.22c; as it is, I'm not sure where this number comes from. For photospheric velocity, Kinugasa find v=35,000 km/s early on. o Leonard et al. (PASP; astro-ph/0206369) -- Presents similar spectropolarimetric data to Kawabata et al., although with somewhat different interpretation. Referencing this work is complicated by the fact that the most relevant part of it to this paper is a >*reaction* to the jet model described here, and put on astro-ph earlier. Although not discussed in any detail, Leonard et al. demonstrate a similarly good fit (perhaps better, even) between the early-time polarized flux and redshifted flux, a comparison that may enhance belief in the jet model presented by the present paper. I leave it to the author's discretion (``Isn't that decent of him to leave something to our discretion'') whether to refer to this paper; if they choose to do so, they should make it clear that the jet model originated in the present work, and that Leonard et al. is testing the comparison for a similar data set. For the record, I agree with the authors that the Berger etal. ApJL (astro-ph/0206183) need not be referenced. That article unfortunately makes only one glib, broad statement about the production of radio emission from a jet, and does not in my mind effectively refute the jet hypothesis. o Minor point: When discussing the "reverse P-Cygni" polarization profile, the authors may want to include a reference to Leonard & Filippenko (2001, PASP, 113, 920), since that paper presented and took the Jeffery (1991a,b) model to a somewhat more analytical level. o Picky point: Bottom of p. 6, 4th line from the bottom. "cf" should be replaced by "see", since "cf" means "contrasts with" (as I've been told by multiple ApJ editors over the years). o p. 7, 5th line. The authors are quite clear that their proposed jet model is only speculative at the moment. However, such warnings can evidently not be overemphasized. I think the sentence "This agreement suggests...explosion." should be reworded as: "This agreement suggests, but does not prove, that a large component of polarized flux may come from ..." ****************************************************************** *** > >We estimate that the length of your paper 'Optical >Spectropolarimetry of SN 2002ap: A High Velocity Asymmetric >Explosion' is 4.35 journal pages. Papers longer than 4 journal >pages cannot be accepted. You should wait until after you have >received the referee's report before preparing a shorter version. > >The estimate was obtained as follows: > >Number of spaces per line: A = 91 > >Number of lines per page: B = 36 > >Number of pages of main text: C = 6.33 > >(Here, the main text does not include the heading section, i.e., >the title, authors, addresses, subject headings, and footnotes, >and does not include the references, figures with captions, and >tables. The main text does include all blank spaces between >sections, and all equations.) > >(A x B x C) / 7686 = 2.7 the number of journal pages needed for >the main text. 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